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Sponsors: CAFOD, ITUC, Bretton Woods Project, Centre of Concern This session brought together experts from labour, development and business organizations to highlight issues and perspectives that need to be part of the review of these influential rankings. Panelists: Bin Han (Alternate WB Executive Director for China), Peter Bakvis (ITUC), Geoffrey Chongo (Jesuit Center for Theological Reflection, Zambia), Augusto Lopez-Claros (IFC / World Bank) Facilitator: Phil Inman, The Guardian Presentations
Peter Bakvis, ITUC
Bin Han, World Bank alternate ED from China
Geoffrey Chongo, Jesuit Centre for Theological Reflection, Zambia
Augusto Lopez-Claros, IFC
Bin Han - agree we need to improve business environment, but it is the method and approach is important - the ranking methodology is key; WB aims to become a solutions bank for clients DiscussionAntonio Gambini, Belgium - the principle behind the Paying Taxes Indictor (PTI) is misguided, EWI starts with principle that lower protection is better; Anthony Baah, Ghana - what is the link between Doing Business and mandate of poverty reduction? Sasanka Thalankiri, Oxfam, US - the importance of inclusivity as part of growth policy, need to be tracking inequality? Are you going to be looking at this in terms of business rankings and fighting poverty? Peter Bakvis - PTI is a problem we raised, now they have put a floor; but look at the health care issue - Canada get a worse ranking because of socialised medicine though it costs less for businesses in the long run. Look at Georgia - massive deregulation elimination of worker health and safety rules. Best scores regionally are shocking examples of bad practice on labour and rights. The IEG study did not show the same results correlating growth with DBR, independent economists did not find the results either Geoffrey Chongo- We might have growth but poverty is still high; for example mining companies had a profit of $5 billion but only paid $500 million in tax. Something needs to be done on other indicators like done on EWI Augusto - EWI is out of the DBR now for 3rd consecutive years, but can't commit to it being out permanently. PTI - I find myself in agreement with the criticisms in the design of the indicator because of the problem of the lack of limit; so we introduced a floor on the total tax rate, we did it in the last year; some countries have such high tax rates that it pushes businesses underground; we had a tax consultative group that recommended this floor; last year 55 countries were under the threshold. We looked at lots of empirical studies - one study shows causation on business creation and employment creation - this pushes greater formality and more tax base; this also shows in studies in India and Portugal. We are thinking of alternative ways of presenting the data to provide more meaning and context - progress with respect to yourself will be further emphasised Helen, University of Tasmania, Australia - Protecting Workers Indicator (PWI) - HDN/ILO working group - what are the possibilities given lack of progress, is there support in the Bank? Jessica Evans, HRW - IFC recognises the guiding principles and regulation to protect human rights. How will this get incorporated? Augusto - HDN is doing the work, not us, but we are doing the data collection work; ILO is not as agile as WB in doing this work; on Human Rights we are doing work on this but it is outside of DBR like Women, business and the law - we have codified legal discriminations against women and will publish next yearPeter Bakvis - at WPI we had 2 preliminary discussions, I critiqued a paper; but the ToR for work with ILO has some serious problems with it for example lack of reference to ILO standards; last year IMF rejected DB data bank when it wanted a labour regulations database because it is too subjective (calls on corporate law firms to do pro bono work to give submissions) Geoffrey Chongo - in the review please take in account the views of people; good intentions are not enough we need to look at impact. This text may be freely used providing the source is credited. This page is: <http://brettonwoodsproject.org/art.shtml?x=571378> Published: 12 October 2012 , last edited: 21 January 2013 Viewings since posted: 905 |
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